Hey, Jeff Atwood latched onto the same metaphor I did - Cockburn's "rock climbing" metaphor.

I really love this metaphor for all the same reasons as Jeff.  What I'm trying to figure out is if "programming as a game" - e.g., Cockburn's "Crystal" approach, can fit within a pre-existing methodolgy.

Here at Commerce, the overall online banking team, that is, QA, development, and project management, already use a methodology based very loosely on Scrum.  I can't expect QA and project management to embrace anything new, especially since so much work has gone into acceptance of the current methodology.  But can the developers adopt this new methodology and integrate it into the existing one?